Here is a French Primus stove catalog from 1929. The first file link below can be clicked on and downloaded for the high resolution PDF.
Can I use the Radius UFO silent cap on a standard silent burner?
Signed, Silent Guy
Nope. Sorry, Silent Guy. A lot of people don’t realize that there is a size difference between the two types of burners. The Radius “Special Silent” burner is substantially smaller than the standard #5-sized silent burner.
If the spigot tube on the “Special Silent” (aka the UFO burner) looks smaller than the #5 spigot tube, that’s because it is. The “Special Silent” spigot tube has an outer diameter of 14.5mm while the OD on the #5 burner is 16mm. So, no way the UFO cap will fit on the #5 burner.
UPDATE TODAY – November 5, 2022
i.materialise has resumed printing and shipping my products at increased cost after restarting their printing operations. You can find them here: i.materialise link
I’ve been busily spending time and (a whole lot of) money to purchase and test printed designs in alternative materials from alternative 3D metal printers. But, sad to say, none of these materials or vendors has worked out as well as the tried and true from i.materialise. So far, at least.
If you need/want to quiet your stove, shopping for my products at i.materialise is your best option at present. I’m continuing to work out more palatable options in the meantime. Thanks again for your support and interest in my stove quieting products. BD
Original July 4, 2022 post appears below:
So! Lots of people are wondering what is going on at my Shapeways and i.materialise BernieDawg silent damper cap stores.
I wish I had good news. And, I wish I knew all the details of the real things that are going on “behind the scenes”. This all hit me as a big surprise and I’m still discovering and researching the truth behind the problems, but here’s what I know for sure right now.
Shapeways raised its prices to print my products at the end of June 2022. The increase on the models ranged from 86% to 113% increase per model, depending on which model. But, generally speaking and on average, an increase of 100%.
What this means in practical pricing terms is that a Minicap without Legs that was selling for about $30 USD in May was jacked up to $62 USD at the end of June. The PolarDawg, my most popular cap, increased from about $35 USD to a whopping $65 USD. The DragonTamer went from $45 to $90 USD. And, biggest jump of all, the massive Top Dawg cap for the British military #12 stove increased from $91 USD to $192 USD.
And, all this is before shipping and VAT taxes and the fees and add-ons that Shapeways likes to do. For the record, my markup, the amount I actually was seeing from the sale of each cap coming to me, was less than $2 USD per cap.
I questioned the folks at Shapeways about all this. Here is what they said:
A 100% increase on printing my products raises the cost beyond what I think people will pay. The price increases effectively kill my silent damper cap business with Shapeways. So… I erased all my designs at Shapeways, erased all my customer photos and text descriptions and left you with the simple message that now appears at the entry page to the BernieDawg Shapeways store. https://www.shapeways.com/shops/berniedawgshop I’d hoped to alert folks that changes were in the works beyond my control so that caps could be ordered from i.materialise before they, too, changed their pricing (as suggested by the rep at Shapeways).
i.materialise Product Freeze
This morning (July 4th, 2022) I received notice in five emails from i.materialise that the last five orders placed at the BernieDawg i.materialise store had been cancelled. (Sorry to those who placed those orders. I had no foreknowledge from i.materialise this would happen and no-one at i.materialise gave me any warning.) All my models at i.materialise have been put “on hold” until they figure out what they are going to do. Here’s their reply to my email asking what was going on:
“Thanks for checking back with us.I must admit that I planned to contact you regarding steel printing around this time, but my colleagues were faster and already cancelled steel production orders. Apologies for this unexpected news.So, for your information we unfortunately had to suspend the steel printing offer until a further notice (around end of July). This happened due to a technical issue over the weekend and the orders that were placed during this time and a bit before got affected. Thus, on Monday when everybody got back to work we removed the steel offer from the website and all the shop-items we had in steel changed their status to “Display only”. This is indeed a short notice or even a delayed one, considering the fact that issues happened on the weekend and we couldn’t react immediately.We are working hard together with the production team to make sure steel printing is back asap, but still can’t advise the exact date when it is back online. On a side note I must also inform you that there will be price changes as well very likely, but more information should be available in the coming weeks.Kind regards,
Inside Account Manager“
What does this all mean for BernieDawg silent damper caps going forward?
Well… as of the moment (July 4, 2022) I guess I’ve been forced out of business.
I have some of my designs I’ve ordered in alternative metal materials, but, just like you, I have to wait for those to be printed and shipped to me. Once they arrive (end of July 2022), I can do some testing to see if they will work out for use on stoves.
But, that said, they will likely cost 20-30% more than the bronze-infused stainless caps that I’ve been selling for the last 10 years. I will also have to work out some method of distribution/shipping/ordering, etc. Pretty tough stuff for an old guy like me to be doing.
I should imagine that IF you see my products for sale again, it will not be until the Fall of 2022.
I’m very sorry that this should be so. It is both sad and very, very depressing. When it comes to humans, it seems nothing good ever seems to last very long, no matter how hard some of us try to create something good and special in the world.
Now!! All of the above is factual truth as it has been presented to or experienced by me.
Here are some conjectures (informed guesswork, not fact) based on some of the statements you see above:
- Both Shapeways and i.materialise NEVER printed their steel products. They lied to me and the rest of the world about this for years. Instead, both Shapeways and i.materialise acted as brokers and farmed the actual bronze-infused steel printing out to the single company that was actually printing bronze-infused stainless steel 3D printed metal – ExOne.
- ExOne has either decided to increase its prices (for unknown reasons) or has been hit by increases in prices from their metal powder suppliers in China(?).
- China, meanwhile, has been rapidly developing metal printing technology.
- It is possible that Chinese companies printing bronze-infused steel are hoping to drive ExOne out of the bronze-infused steel printing business by making the raw materials too dear for any serious person in the West to consider printing it.
- It is likely that you will see my competitor who sells imitation caps that look suspiciously like mine continue to sell for some time yet as that vendor maintains a stock of caps. I would predict you will see that vendors prices increase in the absence of my competition. But, eventually that vendors stock of warehoused caps will be depleted, too. So, if you can accept the issues and problems with the competitions models, then best grab those whilst you can.
Thanks for all the support and products purchased over these years. You are the greatest! BD
Here’s a list of stove part suppliers that I’ve used or know about. As I think on it, I may add more, so check back frequently. Pretty sure this list is current as of December 2021. These suppliers tend to come and go in many cases. If I’m wrong about a supplier drop me an email and I’l investigate/fix it. If I’ve listed your outfit and you don’t want to be listed just let me know in an email. If you find a dead link or if you know of a link I should add, please let me know by emailing: firstname.lastname@example.org and I’ll try to add, update or remove it as required as soon as possible. Thanks!
- Widget Supply carries tons of Dremel products and Dremel-compatible products, plus dental tools, needle files, cutters, blades, jigs, clamps, abrasives, etc that any stove hobbyist is likely to need. And, at lower than expected prices, too! Highly recommended! Go to their eBay store here: https://www.ebay.com/str/Widget-Supply or their webstore here: https://widgetsupply.com
- BernieDawg Silent Damper Caps for modern and vintage stoves. My former USA partner inexplicably doubled their production costs so I’ve closed that store. Sad. You can still find the same caps at good prices at the EU factory outlet here: https://i.materialise.com/en/shop/designer/gary-adams
- Pittman Marine and Stove (Coleman and Amish stove and lantern parts): https://www.ebay.com/str/pitmanmarineandlantern
- 40varga (articulated nipple wrenches) – https://www.ebay.com/usr/40varga
- hammondam (small amount of gaskets Optimus fuel cap gaskets): https://www.ebay.com/usr/hammondam/
- intsource (mostly Britelyt lantern and stove parts) – https://www.ebay.com/usr/intsource/
- Old Coleman Parts (Coleman parts for stoves, lanterns and other gear) – https://www.oldcolemanparts.com/home.php
- A&H – former Optimus USA parts outlet for many years – run by Shirlene – may not be there any more??? – https://www.packstoves.net/default.html
- spinnakerspar Made-In-The-USA parts from eBay seller (Optimus and Svea pips, gaskets, wicks, graphite packing ribbon, and other consumables for small stove repair) 4/6/2021 AND… update 1/21/2023, “graphite donuts for older SVEA 123 / Primus 71, Optimus 8R, 111, and SVEA 123R stoves. Also the P01, P02, and P03 donuts for Coleman lantern and stoves, plus leather cups for Optimus 111 stoves” https://www.ebay.com/usr/spinnakerspar/
- Ess-Kay Yards Carries a small and diminishing supply of parts for marine stoves, especially long-out-of-production Kenyon and Homestrand Mariner stoves –https://www.ess-kayyards.com
- Fogas – Sweden – (some stock of old Optimus/Primus parts) – http://www.fogas.se
- Tradera– Sweden – (the Swedish eBay where all the stoves and lanterns live) – https://www.tradera.com/
- Qvist Outdoor Cooking – Netherlands – (lots of great stuff listed at their website, but only ships to EU countries. Find a stove friend in the EU who’ll reship to you?) – https://www.qvist.nl/qvist/branders-lantaarns/brander-onderdelen.html
- Juliands – https://www.ebay.com/str/tilleylampsandprimusstoves Very slow shipping caused by poor shipper choices (Royal Mail – ugh!). Expect to wait 2-3 months to get your goods.
- Kibworth DIY – https://www.ebay.com/str/hootflipflopandflyatkibworthdiy
- Base-Camp – (biggest Optimus/Primus parts house in the world with lots and lots of parts) – http://www.base-camp.co.uk
- The FettleBox – (stove gasket supplier with very comprehensive stock of seals. Much improved customer service and with very fast shipping in these days of Covid-19.) – https://fettlebox.co.uk/index.php
- eBay seller terrry123 in the uk – (thin graphite sheet for making spindle packings) – https://www.ebay.com/sch/terrry123/m.html
- hytec (green-colored burner gaskets and sheets of gasket material) – https://www.ebay.com/str/hytec1
- Hawleys – has the crinkle graphite tape for making your own graphite packings if you don’t want to buy the solid packings for some reason – https://www.hawleys.com.au/packing/tape/
- kkn4602 (Korea silent caps and stove parts) – https://www.ebay.com/str/papepopotogether
- lovelantern2014 (lantern and stove parts) –https://www.ebay.com/str/allthatlampparts
- gksk2146-3 (tons of great tools and stove and lantern parts) –https://www.ebay.com/sch/gksk2146-3/m.html?item
- philbeagle (Various stove/lantern parts) – https://www.ebay.com/usr/philbeagle/ I can no longer recommend the British Military #12 silent cap from Philbeagle as it has undergone revisions that make it a poor performer without significant modifications involving re-machining some of the parts.
- simonchantwus_gmail (PentaWrenches, stove and lantern parts) – https://www.ebay.com/str/supercorselantern
- chi5972 (stove and lantern fabricated parts) –
- kitelamp (sells remakes of various hard-to-find stove and lantern accessories) Has moved away from eBay and sells directly through this website – https://www.kitelamp.com Has lots of really good and awesome products!
- ama3736 https://www.ebay.com/str/BOTEXX-TOOLS/ eBay seller sells a small number of parts and graphite packing for many stoves – sadly has now decided (1/2021) that “shipping costs too much” for them to ship products to Canada, Hawaii and much of the rest of the world. ???? Still ships to the mainland USA and the UK at this time, but I’d suggest going to KiteLamp for standard sized graphite packings for a better deal instead: https://www.kitelamp.com/en/product/graphite-ring_en/?v=7516fd43adaa
Here are both the original German language manual for the popular Juwel 34 stove and my English translation of the Juwel 34 stove manual. Jpg files are first, and then, at the bottom are the links to the higher quality PDF files. You are welcome to share and distribute these files.
I have a short video at my YouTube channel showing how to light one up with the quick lighter device: https://youtu.be/TEYuNicFRWE
The video has some links to both the storage bag and the windshield I show with the stove.
And, as it turns out, there are two different versions of the German language manual. I found this version one manual online here:
Here’s the Version 1 in German which you can download here from my site or from the site at that link just above:
Heinze Geniol Army Kocher Manual Version 1 German
Here’s the Version 2 in German which came with one of my kochers and has some edits to create new sections and some corrections from version one:
Heinze Geniol Army Kocher Manual Version 2 German
So, I translated both versions. Here are the two smaller files that just show single pages:
Heinze Geniol Cooker Manual Ver.1 English Single page
Heinze Geniol Cooker Manual Vers.2 English Single page
For a booklet style view on your computer or device, download one or both of these slightly larger files:
Heinze Geniol Army Kocher English Manual Version 1 for viewing
Heinze Geniol Army Kocher English Manual Version 2 for viewing
For a document that you can print double-sided and get the pages located in the proper order (to make your own hard copy booklet), download one or both of these files:
Heinze Geniol Army Kocher English Manual Version 1 for booklet printing
Heinze Geniol Army Kocher English Manual Version 2 for booklet printing
Hey! You are free to download these and even share them around. Please retain my little credit to me I put on the translated pages. It took me a lot of days to translate, so it just seems fair. Download and share them for free – it’s knowledge! Let’s be decent humans and share our knowledge and resources! (I don’t believe in trying to make money on documents that I didn’t even print or author originally. Nor do I believe in creating a silly “monopoly” on knowledge by restricting knowledge to subscribers. 🙄 Those ideas are weirdly mean-spirited and not very nice.👎)
You’re welcome, stove fans! 🥳 BD
The Optimus Hiker+ stove was discontinued in 2020. Here’s the Optimus Hiker+ manual for you collectors or for anyone who needs one. Free of charge. The jpgs are below. Click on each image for the full size jpg.
Or, slide down the page farther for a link to get the PDF of better quality.
Better quality PDF copy of the manual (about 486KB):
Optimus Hiker+ Manual
The Swedish-made Svea 123R is a great stove. The “R” means it has a built-in cleaning needle. The spindle key that comes with the vintage stoves has several cut-outs in the key. The purpose of the cut-outs is to lighten the spindle key, to allow the key to dissipate heat and to serve as useful tools for the stove in the field. Here is a quick explanation of the functions of the tool cutouts in the spindle key.
The predecessor of the Svea 123R is the Svea 123 (it has no “R” in the stove name.) The spindle key that was bundled with Svea 123R stoves also had cutouts for this earlier version, the Svea 123. The keys were used interchangeably during the years that both types of stoves were co-produced.
The spindle nut is smaller on the Svea 123, and the opening in the photo below is used to tighten or loosen the spindle nut. Usually used to tighten the nut as the graphite packing in the spindle wears with use.
The cheaply made and low quality Optimus Svea 123R stoves now coming out of Taiwan still feature a spindle key that includes the opening for the Svea 123 spindle nut even though the Taiwanese never made that stove and that stove stopped being produced in Sweden pre-1970.
Some people, new to these sorts of stoves, or with little background on these stoves, will claim that the Taiwan stoves are of equal quality. But, sadly, those people have never had a genuine Swedish-made Svea in their hands. It is fairly well documented on social discussion forums about stoves that the Taiwanese Svea 123R stoves are of lesser fit and finish than the original Swedish made stoves. There have been quite a few reports about failures to positively shut-off straight out of the box. In my own work repairing stoves I have had a half dozen brand new Taiwanese Svea 123Rs sent to me in just the last year for failures to positively shut-off. The spindle seats are often poorly formed and the brand new stoves will leak right out of the box. If you are considering the purchase of a Svea 123R, PLEASE buy a used vintage one. There are lots of them around and they are much better made than the poor quality Taiwan stoves.